The Steamboat Pilot & Today: Discussion: Downtown......Dang it's loud

ColoradoNative (anonymous)
June 9, 2007 at 6:36 a.m.
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This isn't any earth shattering news here but I'm curious as to how many locals actually enjoy dining or even walking down Lincoln street downtown?

I tried to have a beer on the patio of the Cantina the other day and it was simply miserable. I couldn't even have a conversation with the person sitting next to me.

How much longer are we going to be able to fool the tourists into enjoying our lovely downtown atmosphere.

It's a joke. There are quieter sidewalk cafes in the heart of Manhattan than what we have in Steamboat.

There have to be some viable alternatives left that are better than tractor trailers racing down down a blvd full of pedestrians window shopping?

vic (anonymous)
June 9, 2007 at 8:43 a.m.
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Yes, it is loud…and how about that diesel tasting beer? Personally, I would prefer the smell of a cigarette. But I guess we all know diesel fumes are much better for you than cigarette smoke. You could always sit outside by the dumpsters at Johnny's.

Matthew Stoddard
June 9, 2007 at 9:21 a.m.
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But honestly- who puts outdoor seating on the side of a highway, even if it's the main street through downtown? And who puts expensive new housing overlooking the highway? Well…whomever Jim Cook sells to, I guess. Gotta love that view, eh?

Funny thing is, the majority of the noise has little to do with Triple Crown except a few more vehicles.

fish (anonymous)
June 9, 2007 at 5:57 p.m.
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Ok, here is a question. Since the sidewalks are city property, do the restraunts that have sidewalk seating pay rent to the city ?

stillinsteamboat
June 10, 2007 at 6:17 a.m.
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It isn't the truckers fault. They hate going thru town. If they were granted the by-pass they had wanted 20 years ago they wouldn't be such a nuisance. They are in constant panic mode waiting for that mother pushing a stroller to absentmindedly walk out in front of them because she can't take her eyes off of the Carnival we know as Steambaot. It has always been a priority of the Chamber,City Council,The Downtown Merchants to cram as many people as possible into town 24/7. dont blame the trucker he is delivering your food. He is delivering your new windows and gravel for your new home or remodel. He is delivering the concrete for all of Jim Cook's projects we let him weazel himself into.
WAKE-UP you are blaming the wrong people. Until we hold our local government accountable this will never change. locals unite and make some noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!

confused (anonymous)
June 10, 2007 at 10:49 a.m.
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Are you kidding me??? What other option do those trucks have? Is that really something to get all upset about? All of your little wants and needs can't be met without all those loud trucks going through town. Who else is going to fix your roads so that you can ride your bike or bring materials in so someone can build your brand new house? You can't have always have your cake and eat it too. Give up sitting outside at the Cantina if you don't like the noise but don't complain about something that can't be helped.

Gladys (anonymous)
June 10, 2007 at 12:36 p.m.
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Who said anything about it being the truckers' fault?

Matthew Stoddard
June 10, 2007 at 1:13 p.m.
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Gladys-

The OP said as a closing statement:

“There have to be some viable alternatives left that are better than tractor trailers racing down down a blvd full of pedestrians window shopping?”

Vic- No cigs since 31DEC06!!!! Wooooo!!!

Gladys (anonymous)
June 10, 2007 at 2:20 p.m.
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Right - alternatives - put the outdoor seating away from Hiway 40.

mtroach
June 11, 2007 at 8:09 a.m.
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I think one thing we need to realize is that the downtown conjestion, and trafic is just starting. When the 200+ extra homes are built on the west side, that will add to the traffic, and noise both downtown, and accross steamboat. Last frisday I was finishing a ride out at the hot springs around 5pm, and traffic heading westward, was solid from 7/11 to downtown, It's already too late to rebuild the roads to accomidate all these uers, I hope that in the future the city can put together a bus route to help get some of the cars off the road. The council will need another million dollar study to tell them to add a lane to US 40 from downtown to steamboat 2. Hopefully Cook will be done remodeling downtown by then.

mtroach
June 11, 2007 at 11:55 a.m.
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PS; How loud do you think it will get when CDOT start their resurfacing project this summer?

JQPUBLIC (anonymous)
June 12, 2007 at 10:16 a.m.
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Looks like Vail village has decided to try and do away with delivery trucks, they want to build a network of loading docks for unloading goods and handcart everything to the retailers. Their plan is to “ultimately prohibit delivery trucks from the street”, Vail officials said “trucks bother tourists”. Now…. since Stmbt is trying so hard to emulate Aspen and Vail, maybe Stmbt's council should fund a study to see how they can screw up the town's deliveries. Come on businesses, wouldn't the extra time, trouble, and cost be worth it… I mean… you don't want to “bother the tourists” that you're busting your a$$ to serve do you?

mtroach
June 13, 2007 at 10:06 a.m.
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How about a system of underground delivery canals that could wisk goods to businesses without any of our guests even seeing the unsightly boxes? we could buy the system DIA tried to use.

dawg (anonymous)
June 13, 2007 at 7:01 p.m.
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This is probably not a new idea, but since there is no good choice for an alternate route through town, how about tunnelling underneath the length of Lincoln Ave.? Through traffic, especially trucks, make up the vast majority of vehicles intent on getting through town asap. With experienced manpower and machinery from the nearby coal mines, maybe it's feasible. Can't you picture Lincoln as a pedestrian mall?

slow_rider (anonymous)
June 17, 2007 at 2:31 a.m.
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How can we get the bypass ideas back on the table? Tunnels or overhead highways might be the only way. A highway over the railway is definitely possible. Just takes a greater vision. If they can build a tunnel under the English Channel they can solve this one.

Anyone can see that if downtown is ever to fulfill the goals of the Mainstreet Group and downtown retailers we have to get rid of the traffic and reduce the lanes to 2 so that pedestrians and cafe dwellers can hear themselves talk and move in safety. You see how different it could be whenever we close off Lincoln - for the Mustangs, 4th July, Halloween. It would be nice to do this even more often

Instead the traffic gets worse every day and it is never going to get better. Act now and we could save downtown.

ColoradoNative (anonymous)
July 8, 2007 at 12:02 a.m.
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That is a good question rider. The city council should spend less time passing more retail/condo projects down there and save the place while they still can. How many more years can everyone just ignore this situation? Like someone said earlier it's going to take some serious tragedy to open some eyes.